Making hard cider at home Q&A

Homebrewing — By on October 7, 2009 at 10:23 pm

Is my cider fermenting?

Many beer homebrewers panic when first making cider.  When you make beer, you see lots of activity in glass carboys.  Cider doesn’t do this.  Cider does not have the active fermentation you see in beer.  If your fermenter isn’t airtight, you may not see much activity at all.  This isn’t a problem.  The best way to see if your cider is fermenting is to check the specific gravity.  Measure the specific gravity of your cider, wait two days and then measure the specific gravity again.  If your cider is fermenting, the second specific gravity will be lower.

Why does my cider fermentation smells like ass?

Yes.  Cider often produces lots of hydrogen sulfide while fermenting.  Unfortunately for us, hydrogen sulfide can be detected by smell in quantities as low as 2 parts per billion.  Cider fermentations can make your fermentation room smell awful.  Some describe the smell as rotten eggs, farts, or wet dog rolled in swamp water.  In time the smell will dissipate, and your cider will be fine!

Can I use the apple juice from Target/Wal*Mart etc…?

Yes.  You’ll hear lots of debate about the quality of the apple juice from grocery stores, but if you buy 100% apple juice with no sulfites you will get a good cider.  I’ve used Mott’s apple juice, Archer Farms apple juice, and several other commercial brands with great success.  I’ve also used organic apple juice and freshly squeezed apple cider.  The fresher apple juice makes a better apple wine, while the commercial stuff is great for making Hornsby/Woodchuck-style ciders.

My cider is VERY dry?  How do I sweeten it?

To back sweeten the cider, you can use Splenda, lactose, or other non-fermentable sugars.  Another option is once the fermentation is complete, you can add potassium sorbate to stabilize the cider.  After stablizing, you can add honey, sugar, more apple juice, or a can of frozen apple juice concentrate.  I usually keg my cider, and before I’m ready to serve it I’ll add the frozen concentrate.  This way I don’t need to add the sorbate or worry about renewed fermentations.  This won’t work if you bottle your cider.

Can I use pasteurized cider?

Pasteurization does not affect the fermentation.  Pasteurization kills most of the bacteria in your cider by heating the cider to a point where the harmful bacteria cannot survive.  This does not affect the fermentability of the cider.

Should I use apple cider or apple juice?

Both are pretty much the same thing.  Cider is unfiltered apple juice, and usually very cloudy because of the unfiltered apple particles.  Apple juice is clear.  Both apple juice and apple cider will make an exellent hard cider.

Can I naturally ferment my cider?

If you got your cider fresh directly from apples and it isn’t pasteurized, you probably can ferment your cider without adding yeast.  If it’s from the store, you need to add yeast.  Apples contain wild yeast naturally, so it should start fermenting.

Many people use this technique with great results.  Some also produce an undrinkable beverage using this technique.  This is too unpredictable for me, and I use wine or cider yeast every time.  Using known yeasts give you more predictable results and fewer failures.  This doesn’t mean you can’t produce a great cider using a natural fermentation.  The choice is up to you.

Can I use beer or wine yeast for the cider?

Yes, but beer and wine cider yeasts tend to strip the cider of its apple flavor.  Your best choices are WLP775 English Cider Yeast or WLP720 Sweet Mead Yeast.  These will leave more apple flavor in your cider.

I am a avid homebrewer and winemaker. I’ve been making my own beer and wine for many years. I started making beer when I was in college (mostly because the drinking age in the United States is 21). My first few beers were horrible. The beers are much better now, and I often supply my neighborhood with free beer!

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  • bazin!

    If you keg but don't add sorbate, aren't you getting renewed fermentation in the keg from adding apple juice or additional sugars?

  • Baileysbud2010

    Once hard cider what is used to make a bit of sparkle in it?

  • http://www.fermentarium.com deege

    You can either carbonate it by adding a little sugar at bottling, or force carbonate it in a keg. I force carbonate it.

  • Tomlipps47

    I like semi sweet carbonated cider. My first two batches I made were very good, however ended up tasting more like dry champayne. I now have a batch fermenting where I am going to use potassium sorbate once the fermenting is complete so that I can sweeten with honey and prevent further fermenting.
    By using the potassium, will I still be able to carbonate the cider by adding the bottling sugar?

  • http://www.fermentarium.com deege

    No, you probably won’t be able to do that. You’ll need to force
    carbonate. The K-sorbate will inhibit the yeast, and thus prevent
    carbonation at bottling. Note: k-sorbate won’t stop an active
    fermentation, it will just inhibit new fermentations from starting.

    See: http://www.fermentarium.com/homebrewing/winemaking/everything-you-know-about-potassium-sorbate-is-wrong/

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  • Matt Spaeth

    My local Whole Foods carries a local organic unpasteurized cider. If I just pitch into this without adding any sulfites or pasteurizing, do you think I will get a good result? I using Lalvin K1-V1116. Also, do you need to aerate the cider must before pitching when there is no boil which releases oxygen? 

  • http://www.fermentarium.com deege

    I think that would produce a great result. And you don’t need to aerate. I’d just pitch.

  • Thomasw16_4

    Should you bottle right away, or age in a secondary until ass smell goes away?

  • http://www.fermentarium.com deege

    I leave it in the primary till the “ass smell” is gone. :)  I have a current batch right now that I started about 3 weeks ago, and I’ll probably keg tonight or tomorrow night.

  • amateur brewer

    No don’t use splenda, or aspartame. That stuff is toxic garbage and shouldn’t even be on the market. Just add a bit of sugar as you drink it. Then use a different type of yeast next time. The wine yeast is what is making it dry because it stays active in it’s own waste longer (the waste being alcohol) so it eats up most of the sugar.